becoming the wife of a widower….from struggle to joy

the hard work of marriage

Posted by: Author on: August 18, 2009

To update you since my last post, he randomly asked me what was on my mind one day so I asked him why he’s a fan of the Lymphoma group on Facebook.  He said he saw that a friend became a fan so he did as well.  So it wasn’t as big of a deal as I thought.

Today I am feeling like a terrible wife.  The problem is I’m not sure how I can become better.  For some time now, Superman and I have conversations that follow this basic outline:

Superman:  You don’t flirt with me or have passion for me like you used to.  You used to make me feel desired.

Me: I’m trying to be better.  I do love you.

Superman: I feel rejected by you.

Superman: I think you are subconsciously trying not to be like Late Wife.  She treated me this way and that way, and you know that, so you are trying not to be her.

Me: Yes, I have stated I am not her in some areas – namely cooking.  I’m not trying to be nasty to you since she adored you.

Superman: I rank behind Superboy, your job, and at times the housework.

Me: (silence)

He’s got some good points.  At times I feel like my life is one giant task list, and my brain will not shut off from thinking about all the things I should or could be doing.  Especially since up to this point I have not cared for this size of a house, a dog, and a child, since we’ve been married it feels like I have mountains of work to do.

I’ve never really been a flirt, and I don’t know that I know how to flirt with my husband.  It’s like my mind doesn’t conceive of what I should say or do.  Maybe that sounds crazy, but I just don’t know how to give him what he’s looking for in that area.

As for the Late Wife issue, I don’t know that I am qualified to psychoanalyze myself.  Applying my master’s in social work degree to myself has not always worked in the past, so I don’t know if I dare to try now!  I wonder if other WOWs have come across this issue.  In their trying to be true to themselves they take it so far that they begin leaving off basic good qualities that the Late Wife exhibited.  I’m sure the pendulum could swing either way – I’ve read postings of WOWs going to the extreme of being grief counselors, I bet the spectrum goes as far as WOWs desparately trying to maintain their own identity at the expense of the relationship.

Marriage sure is hard work, I’m sure no matter who you are married to!

3 Responses to "the hard work of marriage"

I agree, Carol.

I am married to a widower and what you said goes for us, too.

I know that we all (most)remember times of safe, easy, familiar life situations that we can regress to for comfort once in a while. I feel that maybe Superman must be doing this as it was the last that he knew. While it is unfair to even think that Superman wants that same familiar remembrance of what and how LW did things, it IS unfair and childish on his part. It is comforting to him o live by what he knew for years. Yet, none of us can have that and we should not expect that when wanting to move on with our new spouse. Dynamics do change when one remarries and we all do things differently. Thank goodness that we are mentally healthy enough to live for now, not comparing or wanting to change the other while sucking our thumbs for something that was just because it was familiar.

Once I married W, it was not the same as dating. Many others are involved that we must take into consideration while still trying to maintain our personal one on one relationship. At different times, others in family take priority as needed. That is the way it is in all original families. There are times that neither of us are first, second or third. That is normal for any caring family.

My life changed once W and I married and no longer dating. I had been single by choice for 6 years. I had to get use to shopping for large family gatherings, entertaining their friends, buying presents and having b’day celebrations for new 25 people, family. Bigger house to maintain that we bought together, 10 acres, moving to a new town and truly no one here understood what I took on. W and I did not have the leisure of just being together and traveling like we once did as we took on responsibilities of family matters together. Once married, things do change when trying to unite togetherness among many.

So, yes.. there are many times I rank behind his job, children, golfing, and he ranks behind my housework, job, children at times. I think that is the way it is in any type of family.

Flirting???That can change too in any marriage with responsibilities that over whelm us all on a day to day basis. Then, those moments return when we make time or family situation pulling at us calm down. We all just get tired and worn out with so many responsibilities of day to day living.

I don’t think Superman can begin to comprehend all the energy you are using to maintain a home as well as other areas. I’m almost positive that he and late wife had dealt with much, but they were young and grew together and that is all he knows. You are not to be anyone else. It’s not you and I don’t know how you can make him understand. Continued communication must go on. In time, maybe he will give up sucking his thumb for comfort and grow up and be the man, husband he should be without reverting back to expecting you to be like his lw in any way.

You are unique and worthy. Changes are not easy for anyone and you should not be doing all the changes and lose who YOU are. He chose you. He married YOU.

I know you posted this almost a month ago, but I have been thinking about how this question has related to my life and situation. I am in a committed relationship with a widower. He and his late wife were together for only six years. So their relationship was mostly courtship and cancer. I wish I could say I would do things differently if I could do them again, but I don’t think that I would. I believe that this is my journey and if I did it any other way, I would change where I am right now, and I love every minute of my life. I had a twelve year marriage that crashed and burned and I was just starting a new life when I met “my guy”. We became dear friends, his wife had been gone for three months and for some reason we just could talk for hours about things. Working in Hospice I know how important it is for people who are grieving to be heard, so I was listening. I have heard his whole marriage to her from the inside out. At some point we realized that things were shifting into something else, so we took a break to see if that was what was best for both of us. It was and so we started dating, all of the sudden I wished I didn’t know everything that they had done dating. Without realizing it I would refuse to do things, because they had done it. I was in the middle of my own identity search, feeling very lost about who I was and what I needed or wanted. In some ways it was easy to hide in is late wife’s already existing life. I have talked with friends about some of this and they say it is the same as you get older and date people who have been married, except you know that the person really dislikes that “x” and so you must be better. In dating a widower, they don’t dislike that person; in this case they were mad in love for each other. I think it is really hard not to compare and wonder. Also he had her on a very high pedestal of perfect. I wasn’t sure I could compare up to what I was hearing. Dating went well and he asked me to live with him. I loved the idea, except that his house was a shrine to the late and great. But, don’t think that that stopped me, if being his grief counselor wasn’t enough, I now stepped into helping him let go of the shrine. I even made a photo DVD for him and her family. Once I was in the house my fear of him thinking I was her or a replacement model got even worse. I thought about it before almost all decisions I made with him. I helped clean out her 4 closets of clothing (he had a half closet in the lowest level). I started to really see the facts of their relationship. People can say things, but their stuff doesn’t lie. She smoked and drank a lot, he never mentioned that, she was a workaholic, that was missed in conversation, she was a shopaholic and that left them in debt along with her medical bills. I hope when I pass on, people choose to forget some of my most human traits and remember the best of me the way he did. But, that didn’t make it easy for me to feel good enough. He was a second rate citizen in his own house. He was comfortable being dominated, that wasn’t my wish for my next relationship and I shared that with him. That he either wanted a 50/50 thing or time to go. He liked the idea and went for it. I was starting a new life and was excited about that, I had wanted to go and get my hair done. I was going to blond up my blond, but then I went red blond, his late wife (LW) had dyed her hair blond and I didn’t want to look like her. I was going to cut my hair off, no then I might look like her. I love to wear warm cute hats in the winter, that winter I would not wear one because the ten photos of her around the house and on her stone are of her with a red hat. I froze my ears a lot that winter. In the spring “my guy” found all my hats and asked why I didn’t wear them. I explained and he told me that just because she had 10 hats didn’t mean she wore them, she didn’t, that one photo is the one time she wore a hat and it was just the best photo that everyone liked. After that I tried to ask more when I felt I was compromising to not be like her. I knew her clothing size and what lingerie she wore. I knew too much and it was hard to not compare. That is about the time I looked around the web for an idea of what it was like to date a widower. I found this blog and some other things and that really helped. I had made some mistakes along the way and we were going to have to live with the consequences of that. I was going to compare for a while because I knew too much and he needed to be open to helping me through that. It took time (a year or so) but I stepped out of her shadow and really stepped into who I have always been. We found someone else to be his grief counselor, because every time I tried to help the “not feeling good enough” came back which wasn’t healthy for me. The SHRINE took a year to fully remove, walls painted, my stuff in my home. I slowly learned to appreciate some of her talents, because they were not mine. I am not a decorator, I don’t shop at home stores I did not get that skill. LW loved to do that, so when the decorator did our house she shopped the house itself, she didn’t have to go and buy anything and so the items in new locations with my stuff mixed in is amazing. “My Guy” and I talk about the comparison thing any time I need to now, which isn’t very often. It is nice to have that feeling transform to something else, confidence. For me communication is the key to my heart and he is good at communication. In some ways I know that I found more of myself because I was working so hard to not be someone else. I would dig deep to see how I really felt about things, if it was really important to me and it had been to her as well, then I guess we had something in common. If you asked my friends they would tell you that there is no way I could be compared to someone else, I am very unique in so many ways, there aren’t others of me walking around. But for a couple of years I really did lose sight of all that beauty within me and feared that I was just a replacement. I had a great counselor through out this process and a really good pastor and a life coach and a whole host of other amazing people. When I really forgot what a gift God had made in me, my life coach made me write down all the ways that I was unique and me. I kept that sheet on the wall for over a year, I even wrote parts of it on the mirror to read each day. That was very helpful.
As for the sex and romance thing, having been married once I can share that it ebbs and flows and when you don’t feel good about yourself, or feel confident about the greatness that is all of you, or totally overwhelmed with life, it is the first thing to shut off.
I have to tell you, don’t give up, you are doing great. You have many gifts and I would like to thank you for this one. Thank you for starting this blog, continuing to post and for seeking out answers to your questions. In that you have helped me in so many ways. Trust that God can lead you through these tough times. In the end that is really what got me to where I am today. I had to let go and trust.

I am married to a man who is a former widower. We’ve never had one single conversation whereby there was any kind of comparison being made between myself and his LW. If you don’t treat him the way she used to, how could you ever be accused of intentionally knowing that you are doing just that? You never knew her. He is married to a unique person, you. There is not room in your marriage for discussion about how he was treated by her, how he was adored by her and I find it odd that you entertain such discussion in your marriage.

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I encourage you to leave a comment so others can benefit from your insight and questions. Many forums for wives and girlfriends of widowers/former widowers are not public. I am hoping that by being more public about what happens in our lives, others may be encouraged and some may become more understanding of what we experience. If you are concerned about your identity being discovered by people in your life, please use a screen name. (That's why I haven't disclosed by real name!) Thanks for listening and sharing. ~Author~

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